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Honda Babyboy Gear Problems. Any Personal Experience To Share?

For those that are familiar with Honda Babyboy, SOME BATCH (FEW I UNDERSTAND) have transmission/gear issues. To the best of my understanding, the problem was suppose to affect year 2000 thru 2003. However, i have read of the gear problems affecting even 1998 models and sometimes as new as 2004.

According to Honda, the problem suppose to only affect V6 Engines, (Honda Accord and Acura Car) but i have read different. Some 4-Cylinder Engines have reported the problems. So its kinda confusing. Most cars tend to develop the problems late in about 80,000-100,000 miles while others begin very early.

To the best of my knowledge, the problem ONLY AFFECTS AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS!. Honda actually had a recall on some of the transmission but for those that already made it out of the country, too late.

Below is a letter from Honda addressing the issue.

American Honda Expands Voluntary Transmission

Recall to Certain Honda and Acura Automobiles

TORRANCE, Calif., June 29, 2004 -- American Honda Motor Co., Inc. today announced that it will expand

its existing voluntary recall of light truck models for a potential transmission defect to include certain

Honda and Acura passenger cars. The voluntary action involves approximately 499,000 Honda and Acura

passenger vehicles with V6 engines and 5-speed automatic transmissions. Affected models include certain

2003 and early 2004 model Accord V6 sedans and coupes, 2000-2003 and early 2004 Acura TL sedans,

and 2001-2003 Acura CL coupes.

The company has found only one confirmed instance of a transmission failure related to this defect in its

passenger cars, with no accidents or injuries. “We are acting out of an abundance of caution to ensure that

this doesn’t become an issue for our customers,’” said Tom Elliott, executive vice president of American

Honda Motor Co., Inc.

The situation is created by insufficient lubrication of the transmission’s secondary shaft second gear that

can occur under certain driving conditions. Prolonged operation under these conditions can lead to heat

build-up and under certain circumstances may eventually result in chipped or broken gear teeth or breakage

of the gear. In the event of a chipped or broken tooth, the owner will likely experience abnormal noise

from the transmission and seek repairs. In rare instances, this condition may lead to gear breakage and

possible locking of the vehicle’s transmission, creating a potential safety hazard.

Owners of affected vehicles will be contacted via mail and will be asked to take their vehicle to an

authorized Honda or Acura dealer to be repaired free of charge. Customer mailings will begin in late July.

In most cases, the repair involves a simple gear inspection, which is accomplished without removing or

disassembling the transmission, and a modification to increase the flow of transmission fluid to the affected

gear. If there is any indication of damage to the gear, the dealer will replace the complete transmission

assembly. Customers concerned about the condition of their vehicle may visit Honda’s Ownerlink website.

Customers may also contact their local Honda or Acura dealer, or call Honda customer service or Acura

customer service.

Note: This information is being released in conjunction with an announcement concerning a related

recall action for Honda models in Japan.

Copyright, 2007 Honda Motor Co., Ltd. and its subsidiaries and affiliates. All Rights Reserved.

Honda Worldwide | June 30, 2004 "American Honda Expands Voluntary ,  http://world.honda.com/news/2004/printerfriendly/c040630.html

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I am also attaching the letter.

So tell us your personal experience or if you know people close enough to you with Honda gear problem.

Tell us the year and whether its automatic or manual gear.

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Transmission problem is a common one especially in the cars that run on the road for over a decade or more. What are some of the signs of such trouble? For one, you may find a puddle of liquid beneath your car and that might mean your transmission oil is leaking out. Or with the mechanic transmission you may get a hard time using one of gear steps. That may mean one of the sticks on the forking of it is damaged or broken. If you cannot properly push down the gear pedal, this means your crate is broken. And, of course, various odd cracking and clicking sounds may indicate a problem.

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My Hoda accord just developed gear problem.. when i put it in drive and accelerate, it takes some time before it moves.....pls i dont want to replace, where can i fix. thx tempex88@gmail.com, PIN;22724692

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how serious do we take car manufacturers and their manuals? Pushing our responsibilities for reading our car manuals and implementing same as car owners on our mechanics won't help us. Do ds cars give owners in odr parts of d world same probs wt similar frquencies? If d manufacturer said dt only certain 03 and 04 models(for sedans-which accord belongs) were affected, it suggests to me that bulk of d problems with ds cars are user created. Can we put up a thread on bad attitudes dt damage cars in nigeria vs positive attitudes that helps car owners in odr parts of the world enjoy their cars.

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Pls can anyone advise me on a 2007 honda accord discussion continues with a V6 engine.Is it a good car? Has anybody got similar problems with the car!

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We can repair the GEAR

Call dis number now and ask or tell us your GEAR PROBLEMS FOR SOLUTION OR ADVISE

our workshop is @ allen opebi link rd underbridge,oregun link ikeja

Mr. Gani 08023245831

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With all these auto tranny related issues, it makes a manual that much more attractive. And yes, I'm aware of the Lagos traffic issues, but weighing up the inconvenience of using a clutch, and the cost of refurbing an auto tranny when it goes bad. . .

. . .I'd rather learn how to drive properly, and master a manual!

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I suggest you get a 2004/2005 4 cylinder. i am leaning more towards a 2005 though. May God enrich you more.

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In fact all the above is a surprise to me, I have a honda bullet that J have been using for over 3yrs, both the engine and the gear are still running perfectly, maintenance is regular though, and I hardly give it to somebody to drive, It has actually made me fall in love with honda and now I am looking to upgrade to eod.

With this new info, my choice is now for 2004 and above, I pray I will be equally fortunate with my next buy. For me Honda has won my love

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i drive a honda babyboy 2002 model 4 cylinder with milleage of 128k buh im having serious issues with my gear transmission from gear 1- 2 its hsakes my engine and have change my engine seat twice cos of this issue, pls i need serious help on dis, anybody with useful infoon how to get this problem fixed shuld pls reply

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I have a 4 cylinder 97 Honda Accord aka Academy of Bulldog with gear problems.

Six months ago, i had to change the sensors coz it was not changing gear properly or at the right moment. The change made everything become normal. 3 weeks ago i changed the gear oil and serviced the gear sensors. A week later the gear started a new problem. The gear will free when changing between 2 - 3 and 3 - 4. Change from 1 - 2 stalls for some few seconds but does not free. 4 - 5 is normal. With the problem i cant initiate overtake on gear 3 as it will free for some seconds during the change and while overtaking which is so dangerous. I changed gear oil and the sensor but the problem persist. I ws advised to plan for a new gear box.

I wonder if thats actually the only solution.

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I have a 99 Honda Baby boy with V6 engine. I had the same gear transmission problem and i bought another guy after buying the gear. I noticed my car was emitting black smoke and was really guzzling fuel. So my mechanic decided to check the airflow meter which was working fine. What they are saying now is I need to change my brainbox before the car can work fine. The funny thing is that the car was working fine before the gear packed up and its was after the gear installation that all this started av not even had chance to test drive the gear we just bought. Please anyone got any ideas on what might be wrong with it.

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I bought my Hoda Baby Boy 2001 4 cylinder in December 2007. I purchased it from someone who had used the car before. The car was on 100,000+ (as in mileage) when I purchased it.

I have driven this car for 3 years now without much hitch travelling to and fro Abuja to Lagos, Lagos to PH, PH to Abuja and PH to Ondo State occassionally. The only been when I travelled from Port Harcourt to Ondo State and observed that it would not move the way it should after I had stopped at a checking point.

With the problem, I took the car to Ondo State (Owo, Akure and Ondo town) and back to Port Harcourt before getting in touch with my mechanic who claimed that the sensor got blocked and had to clean and replace oil.

The vehicle is still very much in a perfect working condition now. Presently, the mileage is 126,000+

Thanks God for His goodness.

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na wa with nigerian mechanics, changed engine in my camry 99 v6 and the jerking in the transmission started as soon as you engaged it in drive, i was adviced to take the car in possibly 300km journey which i did the last time i travelled, it has subside to a large extend but still comes in once in a while.

None the less, i just drive and dont bother myself with the headache anymore.

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I have similar problem with my gearbox recently,although mine was as a result of negligence from my mechanic. I was having engine problem so he advised that I get another engine,which I obliged. i bought the engine and the gear problem started from the day the engine was mounted. Since then I have not have peace with my gear.

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please i need urgent help,i bought a honda 1998 4cylinder about 2 months ago with a 137,000 milage. recently when i tried to shift the gear to either R or D4 it delays for about 3 seconds before engaging and with a creaking sound and jerking,but while driving it ok,but when i took it to mechanic for advice and possible repairs.the gear box sensor was cleaned and since then the car has never been the same i.e the car in the morning gives problem in changing gears especially between 1-2 and 2-3,and if i parked the car for about 2-3 hours when i start it it gives the same problem until i drive for about 20 minutes before it retuns to normal and smooth driving.

pls,i need help.

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1999 CRV is good. Just don't use the wrong oil when topping off or changing the oil.

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I think they must have used the wrong oil during the oil change.

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Please i've also had series of stories about the baby boy gear issues. Please can anybody advice on 1999 model CRV? Please

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I don't really know much about cars but let me share my personal experience with this devil baby boy.

My husband bought that car for N1.7m and from day 1 we av not had peace.

It was always one problem followed by another.

The last was this gear box thingy.

He had just changed the transmission fluid and done all round servicing cos of the last problem it had.

He had to buy a new gear box fo N140k.

It was this dat made us sell it for a paltry N800k.

Now, we have a brand new car.

No more tokunbo and no more Hondas by God's grace.

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ya you are right , scanning is better option,

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My 2kobo advice

For everyone using a car from '97 upwards, please let's desist from this idea of taking these cars to our usual  so called 'experienced' road side mechanics that knows no jack about modern auto engineering.

Take your car to a learned mechanic that has OBD1 or OBD2 scanners so they can make proper diagnosis before proffering solutions.

Believe me, most of the issues they condemn your whole gear for could be repaired if the vehicle is scanned first.

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when by honda baby girl (sorry baby boy) had gear issue last year, I went to toyota spare part area in oshodi, i'm sure my Lagos guys know that place. I priced the complete gear at different palces, the price is between 45,000 and 60,000 naira.

Eventually I did not buy the gear because i met mechanic who repaired the gear. Here is Emeka's number 08034868731, he is a spare part dealer there.

Regards.

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my name is Prince, i am based in Dakar Senegal, I bought a Honda accord baby boy, 1999 Model two months ago, when i came to Nigeria, 6 cylinder ( IVTEC ENGINE) automatic gear, but i left it with my friend who dropped me at the airport as I was returning back to Senegal where I am presently. I told him to pack the car, unfortunately he has been using the car. now it has a gear box problem according to my friend there in Nigeria, he told me the gear jjeks and does not move fast as it suppose to . he advised me to change the gear box and that the price is 170K, but i told him i was not going to send 1 kobo, until i come back and fix whatever problem my self. please i need to know from any sincere brother or sister how much is the gear box so that i will know how much i can budget for that. i really need a help on the price

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check out this site. http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Accord/2002/index.shtml

u will av a better understanding of all major problems known with a particular car and model.

hope it helps

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@New dawn. Have a reliable rewiring engineer diagnose it with a good diagonis tool. It could be the computer workshop in the car has malfunctioned or something. It happened to my car as well, he re-set it with the tool and it worked well since- it has been 3 months now.

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I have been driving Honda 2002 V6 Ex for a while now. The Honda was bought and shipped into Lagos from Houston last year with 116k Mileage, now the mileage is over 122k. I have not had any gear issue, though I checked the transmission oil two months ago and my mechanic said its gone down a little so I filled it up. I do regular oil checks, tire pressure, radiator, fuel has never gone below 1/3 always fill up.

This car was brought to me while in Abuja from Lagos, I used it for about three weeks (good road though). I serviced the car (changed oil and oil filter), changed all brake pads and I drove it back to Lagos ( about 8 1/2hrs drive) all alone with full ac stopped twice just to refuel at NNPC Okene and NNPC Akure, on 160Km/h between Ilesa and Ife by-pass on auto cruise. Got home safely

My point is one really needs to take good care of his/her car(s), then its wont disappoint you. I listen carefully when I drive most times, I dont blast sound so I as to know when there an unusual change in engine sound or strange sound, I always monitor my dash board for temp, and other indicators.

I have friends that bought Honda Accord 2000, 2001, 2002 all V6 with very low mileage but have either changed or replaced something on their gear box. Physically the cars look "unkept"and uncared for.

So as you lay your bed so you sleep on it.

Regards

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In as much as I will agree with the earlier posts, I do believe that most people don't even check their transmission fluid talkless of changing it. I do believe that regular checking/changing of the transmission fluid will give you a better deal.

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First of all, I am not replying to this post because i want to make money, I drive a 98 Honda Accord 4 cyclinder, and I had problems with my gear box last september, I was told differe types of stories until i met a mechanic around my school environs, Unilag, Akoka i mean, the mechanic in question helped me with the gearbox and we bough another one from Oyingbo, My car has been working fine ever since, the total cost that i spend was about 65-70k, ever since my car has been working perfectly, the only thing i noticed is that my D4 light doesn't stay on when the car is on. but i bet you, he has changed gears for few of my folks and their car is in top condition, if you feel like you want to trust me, feel free to call me on 08055042940, my name is Jide, I will be willing to help, don't let anyone rip you off, most times its not even the gear that gives the fault, have a great day folks.

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I do agree with you about the Bull Dog because I have been using it for a while now and nothing like Gear Problem. I still have it. I am on Nairaland to get a good deal for Accord 2005 with no plans to sell the Bull Dog. I have heard thesame stories about 1998-2004 Model. Just incase anyone in this thread can get me a good deal, hit me up (lakingrry@gmail.com) - 2005 Accord, Leather Interior, Favorably Royal Blue or Grey. I would be back in town in the second week of June.

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Did u buy another gear yet? or not. May be i read that wrong.

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Did you get guarantee on the one you bought? Did it work when it was installed? Personally, i will stay away from 1998-2004 Honda Accord (Especiallly the V6 Engines) The 4 cyl are not too problematic (though there are some cases).

Buy Honda Bulldog or save for 2005 upwards . Dont waste money. Or if you can get manual gear is ok.

Wish you best of luck my brother.

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My own problem is worst, I have not enjoy my car since last year June when I entered a ditch along badagry mud road. from a relative wedding.

The gear will jerk to and from when I consulted a mechanic I was told I have to buy a new Gear and the one there is damage.

The car is a honda accord 1998 V6 model.The price I was told to buy another one is almost 200k, where in this hard time will I remove 200k to repair my gear box, I have park the car since and only manage to drive around, But last week, I got a very big shocker, the car refuse to go forward only backward, I had to tow it home the next day.

I am worked up, I want to sell the car and I wonder how much they will prize this car.

If there is any good solution someone should post here or email me alfchye@yahoo.com

God bless you.

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Nothing pass manual transmission ooo, from all indications toyota has the best automatic gear box, wonderful, BUT MANUAL NA THE KOKO, LESS FUEL CONSUMPTION AND MORE TORQUE

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Thanks for the advice but a mechanic checked and said its the gear and it occured because he screeched off on starting the car. Just like over-speeding a manual transmission wihtout changing from Gear 1. Like I wrote above, its a friend's car so I dont have an idea how much he bought it,

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im not sure iys the fault of the other guy that drove it. check oil level in the gear. change the gear if proiblem continues. Good luck

By the way, how much was it at cotonou?

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Thanks for this thread. I spoke to a friend earlier on the phone and he was telling me about his car which wont accelerate after pushing the gear to drive D4. He suspects this occured after he gave his car to another friend of ours who screeched off without waiting for the gear to change (he came to the club with a power bike, so drove an automatic transmission car like one). My friend called a mechanic to check the car this morning, as it was towed to the house by another car from the club, and the mechanic said, there is a need to change the gear box which cost approx 95k or more in Nigeria as we speak. Please advise, what can he do to this problem, or better still save some cash, in relation, to the letter you posted above,

Please Nairalanders, Help with possible solutions,

PS: The car is a Honda Accord 2000, 4 Cylinder, Auto Transmission and it was purchased from Cotonou in April with 124k+ Mileage,

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@poster, very good post. we should have more educative and reasonable post like this. keep it up

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The transmission problem affects only 01-03 Honda accord and 01-05 Honda civic. They corrected the error in 2004 that is why you need to stay away from end of discussion 2003. I don't care how much it costs extra, buy from 2004 and above. The problem usually starts from 70k miles and higher.

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