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How Reliable Are BMW Cars?

Virtually all my friends are of the opinion that BMW cars are problematic. Infact, when I mooted the idea of acquiring one, I was advised not try it as I may not be able to cope with the stress associated with BMW products.

So folks, whats your take on this? If you drive a BMW car, what has been your experience?

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To get the best out of ur beamer, join us @ www.bmwclubng.com. everyone is welcome - join the club. dont forget to like the face book page.

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Hello, about to buy a 2006 535. Pls send me your mechanic's number. Need him to accompany me to carry out some checks on the ride. kunle_owo40@yahoo.com.

Thanks

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Pls if you are not sure of something, don't ALWAYS say it with such boldness cos smart people will look at you as if you are not informed. Go to BMW forums and you will be surprised. I presently drive a 5 series that is almost 300,000 in mileage. I was surprised when i saw a VW Bug that was above 500,000mileage on VWforum. ANY CAR can get to any mileage, it depends on handling.

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So in short, BMW cars are horrible?

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Are BMWs good for long distance drives? specifically, the X5s?

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BMW's are not reliable. BMW is not at par with Mercedes or VW. Isolating accessories, the engineering is a lot generic when you compare it with a Merc in all approaches (combustion, suspension and other aspects that I can't think of right now). The setup from plant makes it seem as an unique standard that other cars should seek after but it's just tactic. You can make a setup of whatever you desire if you understand how -- let alone do it.

The 3 Series are the worst of them all.

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BMW DA BEST. . . .BUT I VE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH TOYOTA

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i heard all the positive things about it , but didn't used it until now, don't have so much idea

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if u can afford to buy it , u can afford to maintain it and vice versa,

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BMW are good car and runs great i have a BMW for sale that is well maintain and i give you assurance on it

Attached are pix of the car

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Hi all, Im based in Abuja and can offer a few hint as to where and how BMW parts can be accessed here in Abuja, I own a 540i e39, and yes! I can recommend it for anyone interested in driving a high powered vehicle any day. Maintenance and spare parts could be a little high, but its worth all the dime anyway. Im about to buy the same model in a couple of days and shall have my former one on offer, not on direct sale but to get the parts butchered. So, if you are in need of BMW E39, 540i parts, just holla. adams2eve2002@yahoo.com.

Reason for changing the car---Got a very good one for 1.3m, owned by a Rev Father, thats to tell you its been in good hands. All accesories intact, intact and fine interior, all buttons functioning, TV, Navigation system, ETC. Mine also functions but have lost the polish, but good engine (V8), INTACT GEAR BOX, etc.

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BMW! BMW!! BMW!!! IS THE BEST THINGS THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO OUR WOLRD. IT'S EVERYTHING YOU CAN EVER DREAM OF IN A CAR.

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Its really quite silly to compare the relibility of Honda to BMW??/Really?

I live in the US,you can get beat up 90's BMWs all over for a couple of thousand dollars,i'm talking cars that retailed close to $90,000 brand new, nobody wants them,but put the same years Honda(any model)for sale,regardless of mileage and people will blow up your phone, Nigerians really are blinded by ostentatious things.

Hondas/Toyotas and Nissans are eaily more reliable,parts cheaper and more available,better gas mileage and talking about performance for the thousands you can spend on fixing up a beat up BMW,you can get a sporty Accord,Prelude or Civic,drop it,swap engines and build suspension that will outrun and outcorner those BMWS,not to mention the legendary Toyota Supra that still beats up M3's at the race tracks and dragstrips even though it has not been built since 1998.

Get a grip BMW trolls

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The posting is an Oxymoron if you ask me,BMW's are not reliable period,the only folks who think that are obvious Bimmer fanboys who spend their lives fantasizing in Gran Turismo Video games.They give you performance and some luxury,thats it, not reliability.BMWs depreciate worse than any other Luxury brand except Jaguar.

The best way to determine a brands reliability is to observe how many you see on the road that are 10 to 20 plus years old,in great condition, not mobile death traps, you'll find most Japanese brands and Mercs, but you wont find any BMW's above 200,000 miles, in good condition.In every country all over the world,same story.

Not to deter from their obvious strength,they offer great performance, i.e.the E30's,E 34 M5's,E 46 M3's and E 60 M5's,great handling and race bred heritage, but it would be incredibly silly to buy one,in hopes of it lasting a great deal,they are not built to take beatings period,if you have questionable wallets,its a waste of time.

I owned one of the E34 525i's which utterly fell apart after its Nikasil engine blew up,which was especially problematic on those models with the V8's in the 90's.electronics fail at will,and they still do, Car and Driver magazine does still rate them high on perfomance, but not reliability and these days you can get great value buying something similar for cheaper, for example instead of a new M5 ,compare the Cadillac CTS V, which is faster by far,cheaper and as luxuriously equipped, instead of a new M3, compare Mistubishi lancer evo or Audi rs4,as fast with four doors and bigger boot, cheaper also.

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BMWs are not everyday cars for everybody, they are for peop0le that communicate with there cars and know how they feel. Trust me on that.

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If you want to get a BMW, go for the ones that were made recently ie from 2000-date and always accalerate gently and drive all cars with care for the car and for yourself, but if you drive a BeeMa carelessly, your wallet will pay for it and BMW parts are always original that is why they are expensive.

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OK Thanx for that, will do.

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amenaD the content of your post tells me you should start it off as a new topic here in the autos section

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Yes, I had the Celica, with the 22RE motor, was fine to drive, but it just didn't deliver, not for me anyway.

It was adequate, though less refined at high RPM.

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Correction, my 1992 Carina E Read 342,*** on the odometer Sometime in january. Bought it when it read 160,*** on the clock in 2000.

Never changed the engine. Still drove magnificently. N i'm sure when i go home this christmas, it'll still ride well.

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^^^ Yes, I remember the 8-series vividly - 840 and 850ci.

Massive V12 motor, and pulled like a train -850ci (5,0).

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"Most German cars will exceed 500,000 miles"

Well said sienna. This is something Iv been preaching and laying emphasis on. Have I ever seen a toyota reach 220k miles?.Dont think so.

I have driven litterally every series of bmw, even back to the 1995 BMW 850CSi coupe (which perhaps a lot of people dont know of), but it was of the most powerful bmw's ever made.

I drove a Le mans blue bmw x5 4.6 for two years, Yes you heard right sienna"BMW X5 4.6 ", lol . A huge gas guzzler I must say, but was a pleasurable driving experience. Gave me the best euphoric and exciting feeling ever. Mileage reached 220k miles when I sold it off and it still drove like brand new.

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^^^ Good testament to the build quality of the Bavarian car.

@ All: Yes, the BMW may cost more in terms of fuelling and probably maintenance, but that's the way it is - you can't have performance on fresh air. To produce energy requires fuel to be burnt!

I spend a lot of time behind the wheel, including when I visit Europe. A comfortable, capable car is very important to me. The smaller-engined, lighter Japanese models may be more frugal in town, but the larger-engined German cars - Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Volkswagen are built for the Autobahn, and will return better MPG on a long run.

I wouldn't even consider driving across the Continent with a small-engined Japanese model, a 16-hour trip would soon become a nightmare. In this case, A BMW will also be a lot more durable in terms of good service mileage. Most German cars will exceed 500,000 miles, I couldn't honestly say the same for the Japmobiles. Prime examples are the air and later water-cooled VW Bus / Transporters on Lagos's roads (Danfo). Some of these date back to the late '70's, the fact they're still in service today, is testament to their strength and high-mileage capability.

We all know Danfo's have a hard life too!

The moral:

For comfort, driving pleasure, high-mileage capability - buy a BMW.

For enthusiast driving (a real driver's car) - buy a BMW.

For just a car to get from A to B, and if fuel economy's a high consideration, buy a 1,0 litre Japmobile.

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Hi Siena,

You are very correct with respect to the engine designation. Recently my elder brother recently bought a 5 series which I found out had thesame engine as that in my 3 series.

As for my conversion, I had to take the six cyl out and replaced it with an m40 engine 4 cyl for some reasons,

1. I couldn't get a good front shocks for replacement. (I know fit order am because pepper no rest) The price of the one I saw that was almost new was more than 300% over regular e30 shocks.

2. The replacement ball joints were out of reach compared to regular e30.

The front shocks were replaced with regular e30 but the show stopper was the oil pump. So I had the option of getting a 2.5 half engine or replace the engire engine to m40. I chose the later. Though it was a huge cost for me and the car has lost togue I prefered it as I now drive it around town without burning much fuel.

My wife now drives it and apart from minor electricals, the engine is still sounding sweet especially on the highway. It may be sluggish around town but once it picks up, it is always a joy to drive. My wife had to put up her honda civic 96 for sale as refuse to drive it and she is constantly nagging that I exchange the bimmer for the civic. I sold the civic and how drive an e36 320. It has more togue but I still prefer my e30. We have taken the e30 to Ubulu uku (my home town) in Delta state 2wice this year and the engine is still spurring for more action.

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bmw the best motor on wheels!! cant compare any car in this world to that german machine, one luv! bm lovers

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after all said and done u shld be able to count the positive replies against the negative ones BUT as for me I WILL NOT WITHOUT RIDING A BIMMA.

I drive a Nissan but know that I'm not a complete man

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BMW's are reliable - I've owned 2, a 1989 325i Mtech Sport, and a 1990 M3 Cabrio, never had any issues.

@ Obijack: Why did you convert your E30 from 4WD to RWD?? If you've just removed the fron drive shafts, and retained the 325iX tranny, you're creating drag, that's not being converted to motion.

And just another point, the model designation doesn't always reflect the engine size. Examples (E30):

316 - 1,6

316 - 1,8

318 - 1,8

320 - 2,0

323 - 2,3

323 - 2,5

324 - 2,4 TD

There are also other models where the model designation became even more confusing, in the E36 models, there were both 1,8 / 1,9 badged as 318.

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Hmmm, pretty old post but good one.

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Do NOT compare BMW's with hondas,toyotas or any other asian cars.BMW's are vehicles in a class of their own.They are built for pleasure driving and durability.They are not meant for EVERYONE.It's high maintenance and if you have a maintenance culture imbibed in you, then you wouldn't be complaining.

My dream ride is the BMW X6.Love it.

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extremely reliable!!!!

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Man, sorry it took so long for me to reply, I aint come to this section for ages, well for starters, it depends on how far you wanna travel fro and to, I have noticed from personal expirience that bigger engines are mor fuel efficient for longer journeys ie motor ways, but poo in town ie driving below 40m/h, but you got more breaking horse power with the bigger engines

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@ erico2k2

Hi i need to discuss some issues regarding exporting RHD cars to Nigeria. Please drop me a line at formats50@yahoo.com.

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Talk of ruggedity (The 5 series),talk of response,talk of safety (u can negotiate 180 degrees at 100km/h and apply break with a bursted front tire without summersault).

I have been driving my BMW 5.35 for the past 5 years without any cause for regrest,though th fue consumption is high and parts relatively high.

That car makes Abuja,lagos and port harcourt 2 times a week without shaking,all u need do is to changet the oil when due.

The engine has never failed me anyday.

I give it anyday to BMW.

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did i hear mazda,

it dosent even exist anymore

anyway BMW is an electric car,

always one electric problem or d oda

2 me,

my list remains the same,

1, mercedez

2, toyota

3, honda's

4, BMW/audi**dem drag**

5, odas

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190 stil beta pass all these bmw wen una dey praise like the best car in the world

benz was the 1st car on earth afta garden of eden so respect all benz products

includin the 190 especially the 190,anyway hondas,toyota come next so mak una keep quiet for bmw mata

word!!

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Na only poor people or poor dreamers go say good thin no good.

How you go say B M, no dey reliable?, which one come fit dey reliable?, Just talk true, not only can u not afford it, but d dream pass you by.

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Guys, guys, please, please stop comparing a BMW to hondas, toyotas and whatever those jap metal cans are called. as far as i'm concerned, those that dont appreciate BMWs should not bother about them. you dont lure someone into getting a BMW. You got to have greatness in you to appreciate one. For me, proposing to my girlfriend in a BMW factory is bliss! Jeez the thought of buying the new E60 keeps me awake! I used a couple of cars and nothing compares to a BMW. My advice to jap lovers, whenever you see a BMW, stop and let it pass please. Its the least you can do.

I love BMW, gosh!

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if u've ever driven a BMW,you'll always keep your options open.from Isuzus to Peugeots,Vauxhalls to Nissans, I've ben fortunate to run them all.

i can tell you that on Lagos-Benin, between Oore & Ofosu, thieves on your tail in a Land Cruiser, the only car that will heighten your chances of getting away is a BMW.

Turning around corners, time taken to regain stability after bouncing, Headlights acuity, Braking distance, the BMW is untouched,

Nothing compares to a fit BMW.

EOD, I hope.

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bmw's are the BOMB!!!

forget what people say,

i have being driving mine for years,

it's the ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE>>

and the newer ones (2001 till date) are very fuel economical, their a/c's are ice cold, plus they don't overheat,

BUY ONE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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abeg e 190 beta pass all these BMW wen una dey yarn 4 this site jore

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@obijack,

Awesome analysis Peter. Thanx alot.

@oblo,

checked ur link, not quite what i would like to have. thanx

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http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-194763.0.html

@ logamon

Check out this thread ok. I will give this ride to you at a reasonable prize.

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at least they consider fuel and people's pockets

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@Logoman,

The only defective thing about a BMW is the Fuel Economy Rating (especially for the older models)

I presently drive a 1989 325ix (the IX means 4 wheel drive) although I had to remove the front shaft and converted the front to normal E30. I bought the car in October 2006 for N120,000. (You may think it is junk). I had to put in another N80,000 for body work and overhaulling of the Engine by a competent BMW mechanic at Ladipo.

To date after 2 years I still own the car, I have spent about 310,000 in both maintenance and repairs including the cost of converting the front wheels to Normal E30.

The car is reliable,Parts are relatively cheap. Last week I had to change the two front shocks with brand new ones (shaft only) for N6,500.00 (SACS brand), Tyrod N3000, Ball Joints 3700 and Labour about N4000.

What I am driving at here is that this is a type of replacement that is done probably once in 12 months or once in 18 months or even 2 years. Although I do not drive much around town as my office is closer to my house, on long travel and on the highway, I always have this feeling of being very safe in the car knowing it will never just suddenly stop unlike what my previous Honda prelude had done a couple of times.

Every car is good but reliability, safety, comfort and don't forget prestige is another thing. The sound of the engine alone is awesome. Once you've driven and heard the sound of the engine roaring, you will never want to let it go. Drive another car and try to listen for that engine sound if you can hear it.

The thing on Fuel is this. The bigger the engine, the better the performance and the more fuel needed. The 3 series range is easy to choose from unlike the 5 series that is strickly 6 cylinders. The lowest is the 316 as erico analysed 3 means 3 series, 16 means 1.6 litres. Other are 318, 320, 325, 325ix, 330, etc.

Furthermore, a 1996 Honda Accord (Bull Dog) hand an MPG of 24 miles, while a 1996 318 (e36) has an MPG of 23. The difference is just 1 mile. Where the Bimmer can go and come back, the Accord will have a heart transplant after it.

Nigeria is so good that you will be presented with the prices for the original and substandard parts. The choice is always yours to make and identifying them is not a problem.

If you live in Lagos and need a good Mechanic, just drive down to Ladipo. Any part seller will recommend a good mechanic for you. All you have to do is just call him and he will come and pick up your car.

BM forever.

Forget Niga roads.

If the car is not good pple will not be falling over one another to own it.

It is a machine, not a toy like those Japanese.

Good luck.

Peter.

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@erico2k2:

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U r obviously well grounded about cars, i respect that!!! I have already resolved to owning a BMW and i'm working towards buying a 328i or 330i (2000-2003) as my 1st car sometime next year. My questions are:

1. Whats the fuel consumption rate between a 1.8, 2.8, and a 3.0 litre engine as it relates to 3 series? Are the differences (fuel economy) really high?

2. From ur experience with diesel powered engines what would u say about its fuel economy relative to its pms powered version?

3. How do i know the MPG of a car?

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Whats the average price of acquiring a toks 3 series (2000-2003) model in naija? Please post helpful links.

Thanx

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well, there aint no place in law that says you cant bring in RHD cars into Nigeria, my BMW is LHD, I drove it in the UK for 4 months B4 I took it to Nigeria OK, the HUmmer Jeeps in the UK are all LHD< go and check www.autotrader.co.uk, you will see.

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This can only happen in Nigeria. What a pity.

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@ ruescho

The VW Phaeton is VWs most unsuccessful car. They shouldnt have tried getting into the luxury car game. Passat is a good car.

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asking price is =N=700,000

just brought it in from Uk

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