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What's Actually Wrong With V6 Engines?

Please what actually is wrong with V6 engine cars. I went to Cotonou yesterday, saw a Honda Legend Car, V6 engine, factory AC, leather seat, full options and even test-drive d car myself and is very very sweet, but I didn't really like it being V6 engine because of what I use to hear about it. Then I called my friend who is a car dealer right there in Cotonou, told him about the car, but he said provided is V6 engine that I should not buy it, that V6 engines always take one to mechanics and so on, I almost pay in some money for the car immediately, because the price also is good, but because of what he said I didn't pay again, but out of all the cars I priced (within my budget) I still prefer that Honda Legend.

So is it advisable to buy V6 engine or will I regret it? Pls advise me.

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Guys,

You've all made me feel better.

I recently asked a friend to buy a 2008 Toyota Camry XLE for me . He ordered a V6...not the V4 as I earlier advised. I was furious as to how I was going to maintain the car. Most of my friends that have 4cylinders are complaining bitterly. One of them is at the verge of selling his V6...the same model I bought.

But with these posts and comments, I can relax and enjoy my car. The problem is not that the. v6 get plenty wahala; the problem is our roadside mechanics that put fear in us due to their high levels of incompetence.

Good night Guys.

Uba.

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There are many car more dan dat honda legend

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I am specifically referring to Nissan V6 vehicles and yes they do have timing chain and tensioner issues as early as 25,000 miles on the clock.

There are references and experiences all over the net if you care to check

This post by nissparts really scared me as I intend to get a Nissan Altima 3.5 SL. If the timing chain is unreliable, I may change my mind

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My Lexus Gs430 is a V8 32v but with the cost of Petrol in the UK now, I have resorted to driving my Toyota Paseo & Honda S2000 more. It pains me to have to SORN her, but I have to start saving money, rather than be a spend thrift !!!!!!!

But the thrill of a V8, is out of this world !!!!

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AGAIN,

I am specifically referring to Nissan V6 vehicles and yes they do have timing chain and tensioner issues as early as 25,000 miles on the clock.

There are references and experiences all over the net if you care to check.

Also note that this was simply an analogy to describe the difficulties experienced by mechs maintaining a V6 engine compared to its 4 cyl equivalent and thus comparing a 2 decade old 505 really does not come into play here.

I drive a V6 and nowhere have I said it's a bad thing to drive which should be obvious by the poster I quoted and agreed with.

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@ nissparts,

Point of correction. If your V6 engine has timing chain, then, you have no business with the part of the engine where the timing chains are. Like my two cars that are all V6s, both have timing chains. Each bank of the cylinder head has a single timing chain, thus, two timing chains per engine, making the chains less stressful while in functions. Of all the reviews of Peugeot 505 V6 & 605 V6 i have read, no place was mentioned that anyone replaced its engine timing chains of both the cars (ZN3J & ZPJ), even the ones that have clocked 600,000 miles. Unless you are telling us that Nissan V6 timing chain engines are not reliable & durable like other brands. Timing chains in V6 engines outlive the cars lifespan. Prove me wrong. Worst case scenario, you re-adjust the chain, since they all have components installed to be used to adjust the chains.

V6 is the best in terms of performance & favorable fuel economy, unlike the V8, V10 & V12. The fuel consumption difference btw I4 & V6 is insignificant, and yet you get more driving pleasure and power from the V6. I have used both and realised how much i missed while i was in the I4 world. V6 world is a world i cant imagine myself leaving again.

Ikenna.

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I will never buy for a 4-cylinder car for personal use. v6 is stronger, heavier, faster and more reliable than l4. Ask any body that has driven a v6. The most important thing is proper maintenance.

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Err, note that I said Nissan Altima specifically in my post.

Besides, a timing belt is COMPLETELY different from a timing chain set up so your analogy does not apply.

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For example, timing chain replacement in a V6 Altima takes 3 days minimum. A job which can be done in 3 hours on the 4 cylinder engine.

A simple change of plugs on the same vehicle V6 can take 1-2 hours depending on proficiency and cannot be done by the owner unless he is advanced in auto maintenance while the 4cyl plug change can be done by anyone in 15mins.

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i currently drive Mercedes Benz E-CLASS (E-430) Year 2000 model which has a V8 engine. i started having sleepless nights after test driving the monsterous V8, all that was on my mind was how i was going to arrange the cash for payment. although the car is relatively old with a mileage of over 240,000 miles, i couldnt resist the roar and rapid accelaration of the machine. i did a road trip from kano-katon karfe (Kogi)- Lafia (Nasarawa state)-kano and it was awesome. i will neva buy any car with I4 engine, i dont even want a V6 because i scared i might not love it as much as i love my V8.

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the only problem i see with the V-engines is just a little more complications for most auto mechs. everything seems double due to the dual nature of the design. crankshaft, firing order more complicated and position of the main and big-end journal is 120 degress instead of conventional 180 degrees(crankshaft). so timing seems more difficult. working area is reduced due to cumbersome engine design. since most engine parts are duplicated then maintenance cost duplicates too and since we virtually have 2 seperate engine then there is also more failure point. in general our auto mechs dont have the technical know how to handle the V-engines for now. so they'll always runaway from it.

this is what i see as an issue but as for me i think a well and regularly maintained vehicle should serve you long enough before you begin to experince serious issues. i personalyy have the habit of delving into automobile models people complain most about and most of the time i never have issues because i hold maintenance with a very high esteem.

maintenance is the key to avoiding killer automobile issue

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@ nissparts, please, please don't try to scare people off V6 cars. The timing belt on my V6 '99 Camry took only a few hours to replace, and the mechanic did a perfect job.

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Is Honda BabyBoy V6 also good?

Kindly drop some comments on the above specific ques. thanks.

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Please go ahead. They need you more than you think. The Lambo, Masserati, AMG, Aston Martin etc, owners would be glad to have your presence.

Kind regards.

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You're dead right.

Right now, the only thing wrong with V6/V8 engines is Nigerian mechanics themselves.

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Most modern offerings of high-end models are V6/V8 only. There are lots of new vehicles in use in Nigeria - VW Touareg, Infiniti, Audi Q7, Nissan Pathfinder, Porsche Cayenne etc. I'm sure an I4 engine isn't an option, and the owners of these cars obviously get them serviced / repaired by competent technicians, within and outside dealerships.

The issues here (as I see them) are the average Nigerian wants a car with all the refinement and power, yet doesn't want to pay the right people to work on it, they'd rather use the cheap roadside mechanics, with zero credentials. It's not uncommon to see Nigerians in Nigeria shelling out big bucks to purchase an Infiniti, yet would be hunting down quack mechanics to service them, then come back moaning when their expensive pride and joy is grounded by a mechanic, who shouldn't even be allowed to wield a spanner near a petrol lawn mower.

It's this refusal of users in Nigeria to get their cars serviced by competent techs, that is making me hesitate in setting up, and opening a fully-equipped Autocentre in Abuja.

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My belief is:

"If you can't find good mechanics for V6 engines, then you are ignorant on good rides"

Most swell rides today are V6 engines and there are a lot of experienced mechanic workshops opened. Almost everywhere. Except you still believe in roadsides all the sake of management (which you call economical)

Understand your car and treat her well just as you appreciate the funds used in buying them.

Kind regards.

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since it has bin established dt our mechanics arent too skilled as regarding V6 engines and only few of hav d required expertise, from an economical point of view, i fink ts betta to go for an I4 engine to avoid d stress of looking for skilled mechanics except ofcourse, u're ready to fly d car abroad for repairs!!

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As much as Nigerian mechanics don't like V6 / V8 engines, and would rather work on an I4, V engines are becoming more wide spread. Hardly any high-end SUV's or flagship family sedans / wagons come with a puny 4 cylinder these days. Nigerian mechanics need to be prepared to learn something different. And stop scare mongering, most car users in Nigeria today buy cars based on what their mechanic are comfortable working on.

Nigerian mechanics also need to stop telling their customers "oga, dis V6 no good, no peson fit repair am. Wetin I go advice you, I fit convert am to 4 plug engine with carburettor. I get one 4 plug engine for my broda Datsun 120Y, I go fit am for your Nissan Pathfinder." These are just some of the horror stories emanating from Nigeria.

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^^^ That's great.

I've just moved back to Club V8. Replaced my Audi A4 3,0 V6 Quattro with an Audi S8 4,2 V8 Quad Cam 40V. Fuel consumption is on a par with my previous A4, despite the car's sheer weight, and Tiptronic transmission.

I4 engines are for dinosaurs, or lower-end models.

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I bought a `1988 300E Mercedez in 2002 with a V6 Engine. I am yet to have any problem with The Engine and My friends are shocked at the way the car moves. It does consume more fuel than my previous 82 Flat Boot though, but nothing to cry over.

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Your Jeep will be an I6, not V. And the 4 cylinder versions are I4, not V4. As for the Toyota Camry, you'll enjoy it in V6 guise.

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Nice Topic

I av been driving a V6 engine Jeep for more than 2 yrs now and i can tell u i didnt av any regret, so economical even more than the V4. I intend buying a camry soon and is stilll V6 am going for.

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Yes o. This V6 myth has impeded a lot of car sales. You must educate the brainwashed buyers before they see the light.

True, the only thing wrong with em is our roadside mechanics.

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The only wrong with V6 Engines are 9ja Mechanics that are not open to positive change.

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there nothing wrong with V6 at all,the thing i know is that the fuel consumption is high and also its not all mechanics that have the skills to service or repair a v6 engine,

Like what viperman said service your car regularly and not just any mechanic,a specialist on v6 engine if possible on a particular brand of car.Once you make a mistake to give out your car for servicing to the wrong mechanic that does not have the any idea of a v6 then definitely your car will surely have serious problem because v6 is a very sensitive engine when you touch the wrong thing.

V6,V8  and V12 - have smooth speed a very good balancing on the ground,think toyota v6 cars are very economical as the v4 cars,

this all i can say for now.

cheers

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There is nothing wrong with V6 engines.I'll take a V6 over an I4 engine any day.How many oyibo mechanics or V6 users do you see complaining? Our mechanics down here in naija are incompetent.If you are complaining of V6, how about people who are using V8,V10,V12 and even V16 engines? Wetin those ones go talk? Or will you say because a range rover sport is V8, you won't drive it when you can afford it?

This is the same way the mechanics condemned BMW and Audi vehicles saying that it's "hard" to maintain and it has many "problems". German cars might be a little more expensive to maintain than Asian cars but once you replace a faulty part, you won't face that problem for another 5 years at least unless the mechanic is incompetent and doesn't know what he's doing.You cannot say the same about Asian cars whereby you see someone changing shaft or ti-rods 3 times a year.

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My mechanic always told me that v6 was the best,i never believed him until i rode one

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V6 engines are great. They consume more fuel though. As long as you carry out proper servicing and care, you will not have any issues.

Mechanics will always tell you bad things about it because they are obviously not competent enough to carry out repairs on them.

My friend's V6 accord had a simple issue with the air conditioning, after several visits to the mech, the engine packed up due to timing issues that wrecked the top cylinder. (The mechanic was a honda place guy!)

Just make sure some  incompetent mechanic doesn't tamper with your engine and you will be fine!

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Most Nigerian mechanics are not technically sound enough to fix V6 engines. No matter how slight the problem is, a majority of roadside mechanics don't understand it. So rather than master it, they prefer to avoid it by telling the people whose cars they service that the V6 engine is bad.

My in-law had a Nissan Maxima with a V6 engine and when the car had an accident, even the bloody morons at Alliance Motors, after spending more than N900,000, could not fix the engine. Change brainbox sir, buy new engine sir, platinum tipped spark plugs sir, just drive it around for a couple of weeks sir.

We drove the car at about 20 km/h to Benin City, brought out the Maintenance Manual, Laptop, and Google, and became our own mechanics. In 5 days, we fixed the car. I posted about it on Nairaland last year. Since then the car has been sold to another inlaw (keeping it in the family so someone else does not have to suffer what we suffered at the hands of mechanics).

Now, another issue that makes this rumour about V6 engines so bad is that even those who know how good a V6 engine is, they use that urban legend as a negotiation tactic to drive down the price of sellers' cars once they hear it's a V6.

I have a Camry 2001 for sale currently and it's a V6, yet I have no intention of selling it any cheaper than the I4. In fact, I'm hoping to leave the price more expensive so that by the end of the year if it remains unsold, I'll have no just but to keep it for myself.

So conclusion, don't let anybody sell you a 4 cylinder vehicle in preference to a V6 or even more expensive because that is what Oyibo people call an IRONY.

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The only wrong with v6 engine are our mechanics.

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i believe the issue is not with the engines but with the mechanics who do not fully understand the set up of a V Configuration engine

i have a V6 Mercedes C320 and it works very fine without problems.

my advice to all mechanics criticizing the the V Configuration, Please go back to School and receive advanced training on the V Configuration, that way you can save your clients money instead of the trial and error work a lot of you do.

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I WAS ADVICED BY THE MECHANIC I TOOK TO INSPECT A 1999 CAMRY V6 AND HIS COMMENT WAS NOT DIFFERENT: HE ADVICED ME TO AVOID IT COS IT GIVES PROBLEM UNLIKE THE V4 ENGINE.

I WAS LATER ADVICED BY MY BROTHER WHO WAS FAR AWAY IN PORTHARCOURT TO BUY THE CAR DUE TO THE ANALYSIS I GAVE TO HIM ON THE PHONE.

I HAVE BEEN USING THE CAR FOR OVER A MONTH AND I AM OVERWHELMED BY THE THE FORCE OF THE ENGINE, THE A/C IS OUT OF THIS WORLD, FUEL CONSUMPTION OK AND THE IT TAKES A PROPER LISTENING BEFORE YOU COULD HEAR THE SOUND OF THE ENGINE.

I WONDER WHAT A V8 OR V10 WILL DRIVE LIKE.

I  CANT SETTLE FOR LESS.

@kenzspunpy ,

Cant really say, cos mine was not converted american spec cum special edition.

I dont really see any issue with it, since it was done in the uk, u re sure of the best standard and complinace but i advice u still make further enquiries.

ADVICE: MECHANICS SHOULD LOWER THEIR PRIDE, TAKE COURAGE AND TAKE TIME TO UPDATE THEIR KNOWLEDGE RATHER THAN COMMENTING ON ISSUES THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT.

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There is nothing wrong with V6 engine,Its the best thing that ever happened to a car engine!!!!!!! If you like the car,buy it.

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@ big father, i dont understand what you mean, do you anticipate any problems?

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people, am about to purchase a V6 98 toyota camry, which was converted from RHD to LHD. hope there wont be any issues? the conversion was done in the UK,

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V6 Engine is super. No gain saying much.

'drive and see for your self'.

i currently drive an audi 80 wagon V6 Engine, may goodness this car is super-fast,balanced and smooth on the highway(smooth -road like benin-warri/benin-asaba). its recommended for long distance travel, driving it within city/township could make it perform sub-optimally.

In terms of maintenace; i ve not touched the engine since i bought the car(2yrs on), all i ve done is service it once every 3 months whether the oil is due or not.However, i think the car consumes more fuel when driven around town, than on the highway.

Also, i think the engine has impact on the shock because i ve changed my twice-probably because of the engine weight.

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Since you didn't have any problem before the slight accident, I may have to assume that Its your mechanic that is no doing a good job(accident has nothing to do with timing/bearing).

Older Toyotas V6 do have a sluge problem

http://www.autosafety.org/toyota-broadens-sludge-repair-program

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2002/04/04/toyota-sludge.htm

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Is Honda BabyBoy V6 also good?

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gentle be careful, if u must go v6 then go toyota. I drive a v6 honda engine rover salon. mine came with auto gear but its manual because when it got bad after a slight accident I cld not get a good replacment. now mechanics are finding it hard to repair my timing after my timing bearing got bad. my legend engine rover is a bumber on the road but where will u fly to. fuel consumption is better with manual than auto. well cars are all about luck then ur handling.

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How many people do u know that have used the car with complain? And what's their complain?

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Gentle egg,

Don't buy that second one, i don't know anybody that has used that car without complaint.

And it's second hand value is wack.

Just an advice.

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2nd one with coupe but the Honda logo design in the front is slightly different

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Honestly the fuel consumption is not an issue in my case.I get good mpg on my V6 which could be well compared to a 4cylinder

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is it this one

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Honda_Legend_1986_Salisbury.JPG

or this one

http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/ecrm/stock/1775737_2.jpg

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@ Viperman

It is 95/96 Model. Why ask?

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THAT!!! is a monster,

That said, the V6, as somebody mentioned earlier strikes the balance btw power and fuel economy, Besides, it is becoming the unspoken industry standard.

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